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		<title>Web Design Foundations</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 03:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There was a request on Reddit today asking for some resources on how learn web design skills.  The response was great.  So great that I&#8217;m just going to copy it here. I really appreciate how the list starts with typography.  This is very much about visual design and not code or other kinds of crunchy [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright" title="Web Design Wireframe" src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3202/3307873748_44a6e5af53_m.jpg" alt="Web Design Wireframe" width="240" height="202" />There was a request on Reddit today <a title="Original Reddit Post" href="http://www.reddit.com/r/web_design/comments/g7zaq/hi_web_design_developer_here_looking_to_improve/" target="_blank">asking for some resources on how learn web design skills</a>.  The response was great.  So great that I&#8217;m just going to copy it here. I really appreciate how the list starts with typography.  This is very much about visual design and not code or other kinds of crunchy hackery.</p>
<p>The information is clearly in the context of web design, for the most part. However there is quite a bit of information here that is just about visual design in general.  I&#8217;ve added a few books to the list that I find useful and continue to refer to, a couple of links that I like; in particular I added some links about wireframing.</p>
<p>If you have some links to share, please let me know.  I&#8217;m think about how this might evolve into a resource page as opposed to a post.</p>
<p>Many thanks to <a href="http://www.reddit.com/user/avogadrospimp" class="broken_link">avogadrospimp</a> for asking the question and to <a href="http://www.reddit.com/user/materialdesigner">materialdesigner</a> and <a href="http://www.reddit.com/user/Luchian" class="broken_link">Luchian</a> for the awesome answers.</p>
<h2>Typography</h2>
<p><a href="http://psd.tutsplus.com/articles/techniques/a-20-minute-intro-to-typography-basics/" target="_blank">Typography Intro<br />
</a><a href="http://ilovetypography.com/2007/11/06/type-terminology-humanist-2/" target="_blank">Typographic History<br />
</a><a href="http://ilovetypography.com/2008/03/21/extreme-type-terminology/" target="_blank">Typographic Terminology<br />
</a><a href="http://blog.typekit.com/2011/03/17/type-study-typographic-hierarchy/" target="_blank">Typographic Hierarchy<br />
</a><a href="http://www.typography.com/ask/recentTopic.php?rtID=92" target="_blank">Mixing Fonts<br />
</a><a id="static_txt_preview" href="http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/0881792063/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=ecelctica-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=15121&amp;creative=390961&amp;creativeASIN=0881792063">The Elements of Typographic Style</a> (Book)<br />
<a id="static_txt_preview" href="http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/1568989695/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=ecelctica-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=15121&amp;creative=390961&amp;creativeASIN=1568989695">Thinking With Type Revised Edition</a> (Book)<br />
<a id="static_txt_preview" href="http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/0201703394/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=ecelctica-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=15121&amp;creative=390961&amp;creativeASIN=0201703394">Stop Stealing Sheep &amp; Find Out How Type Works</a> (Book)</p>
<h2>Typography on the Web</h2>
<p><a title="Web Typography" href="http://www.webtypography.net" target="_blank">Web Typography</a><br />
<a title="Web Typographic Guidelines and Techniques" href="http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2011/03/14/technical-web-typography-guidelines-and-techniques/" target="_blank">Web Typographic Guidelines and Techniques<br />
</a><a title="Choosing the Right Font" href="http://webdesign.tutsplus.com/articles/choosing-the-right-font-a-practical-guide-to-typography-on-the-web/" target="_blank">Choosing the Right Font<br />
</a><a title="On Web Typography" href="http://www.alistapart.com/articles/on-web-typography/" target="_blank">On Web Typography</a></p>
<h2>Design Theory</h2>
<p><a title="Web Design Theory" href="http://webdesign.tutsplus.com/sessions/web-design-theory/" target="_blank">Web Design Theory</a><br />
<a title="Principles of Design" href="http://www.digital-web.com/articles/principles_of_design/" target="_blank">Principles of Design</a><br />
<a title="The Lost Principles of Design" href="http://www.fuelyourcreativity.com/the-lost-principles-of-design/" target="_blank">The Lost Principles of Design</a><br />
<a title="Principles of Good Web Design" href="http://inspectelement.com/articles/the-principles-of-good-web-design-part-1-layout/" target="_blank">Principles of Good Web Design</a><br />
<a title="Design Principles" href="http://desktoppub.about.com/od/designprinciples/Principles_of_Design.htm" target="_blank">Design Principles</a><br />
<a title="50 Free Lessons in Graphic Design" href="http://psd.tutsplus.com/articles/web/50-totally-free-lessons-in-graphic-design-theory/" target="_blank">50 Free Lessons in Graphic Design Theory</a><br />
<a title="Teach Yourself Graphic Design" href="http://psd.tutsplus.com/articles/inspiration/teach-yourself-graphic-design-a-self-study-course-outline/" target="_blank">Teach Yourself Graphic Design </a><br />
<a id="static_txt_preview" href="http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/1592535879/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=ecelctica-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=15121&amp;creative=390961&amp;creativeASIN=1592535879">Universal Principles of Design, Revised and Updated</a> (Book)<br />
<a id="static_txt_preview" href="http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/0465067107/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=ecelctica-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=15121&amp;creative=390961&amp;creativeASIN=0465067107">The Design of Everyday Things</a> (Book)</p>
<h2>Gestalt Design Theory</h2>
<p>&#8220;I believe Andy Rutledge&#8217;s Gestalt series is the best way to grasp the fundamental principles of design. Reading these articles, and many others found on his site, helped me focus on the important aspects in a design and provided a clear understanding as to <em>why</em> elements on a webpage should, look, be positioned and behave in a certain way.&#8221; - <a href="http://www.reddit.com/user/Luchian" class="broken_link">Luchian</a></p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.andyrutledge.com/gestalt-principles-1-figure-ground-relationship.php">Figure Ground Relationships<br />
</a><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.andyrutledge.com/gestalt-principles-2-similarity.php">Similarity<br />
</a><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.andyrutledge.com/gestalt-principles-3.php">Proximity, Uniform Connectedness, and Good Continuation<br />
</a><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.andyrutledge.com/common-fate.php">Common Fate<br />
</a><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.andyrutledge.com/closure.php">Closure</a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 20px; font-weight: bold;">Design History</span></p>
<p><a title="Design Is History" href="http://designishistory.com/" target="_blank">Design Is History<br />
</a><a title="Design History" href="http://www.designhistory.org/" target="_blank">Design History</a></p>
<h2>Layout</h2>
<p><a title="Whitespace" href="http://www.alistapart.com/articles/whitespace/" target="_blank">Whitespace</a><br />
<a title="Designing With The Grid" href="http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2007/04/14/designing-with-grid-based-approach/" target="_blank">Designing With The Grid</a><br />
<a title="Outside The Grid" href="http://www.alistapart.com/articles/outsidethegrid/" target="_blank">Outside the Grid</a><br />
<a title="Rhythm" href="http://24ways.org/2006/compose-to-a-vertical-rhythm" target="_blank">Rhythm</a><br />
<a title="Visual Hierarchy" href="http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2010/01/the-principle-of-proximity-in-web-design/" target="_blank">Visual Hierarchy </a></p>
<h2>Wireframing</h2>
<p><a title="The Importance of Wireframing in Web Design" href="http://www.onextrapixel.com/2009/07/15/the-importance-of-wireframes-in-web-design-and-9-tools-to-create-wireframes/" target="_blank">The Importance of Wireframes In Web Design</a><br />
<a title="Ultimate Guide to Website Wireframing" href="http://sixrevisions.com/user-interface/website-wireframing/" target="_blank">Ultimate Guide to Website Wireframing</a><br />
<a title="The Importance of Wireframing" href="http://www.45royale.com/blog/articles/the-importance-of-wireframing/" target="_blank">The Importance of Wireframing</a><br />
<a title="Get Wireframing: The All-In-One Guide" href="http://www.gracesmith.co.uk/get-wireframing-the-all-in-one-guide/" target="_blank">Get Wireframing: The All-In-One Guide</a><br />
<a title="35 Excellent Wireframing Resources" href="http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/09/01/35-excellent-wireframing-resources/" target="_blank">35 Excellent Wireframing Resources</a></p>
<h2>Colour</h2>
<p><a title="Colour Theory in Web Design" href="http://sixrevisions.com/web_design/a-look-into-color-theory-in-web-design/" target="_blank">Colour Theory in Web Design</a><br />
<a title="The Meaning of Colour" href="http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2010/01/28/color-theory-for-designers-part-1-the-meaning-of-color/" target="_blank">The Meaning of Colour</a><br />
<a title="Colour Contrast" href="http://snook.ca/technical/colour_contrast/colour.html" target="_blank">Colour Contrast</a><br />
<a title="Colour Lovers" href="http://www.colourlovers.com/" target="_blank">Colour Lovers</a><br />
<a title="Kuler Theme Generator" href="http://kuler.adobe.com" target="_blank">Kuler Theme Generator</a><br />
<a title="0 to 255 Colour Variations for Web Designers" href="http://www.0to255.com" target="_blank">0 to 255 Colour Variations for Web Designers </a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 20px; font-weight: bold;">Art Direction</span></p>
<p><a title="Art Direction and Design" href="http://www.alistapart.com/articles/art-direction-and-design/" target="_blank">Art Direction and Design</a><br />
<a title="Print Design" href=" http://www.underconsideration.com/fpo/" target="_blank">Print Design</a><br />
<a title="Logo Design" href="http://justcreativedesign.com/2009/07/27/what-makes-a-good-logo/" target="_blank">Logo Design</a><br />
<a title="Branding" href="http://www.underconsideration.com/brandnew/" target="_blank">Branding</a></p>
<p style="text-align: right;">Image from <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rohdesign/3307873748/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/rohdesign/3307873748</a> <a rel="license cc:license" href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/deed.en_CA">Some rights reserved</a></p>
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		<title>Wifi @ Drupalcon Chicago</title>
		<link>http://eclecti.ca/2011/03/wifi-drupalcon-chicago/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 17:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There has been some complaints of the wifi at Drupalcon dropping.  The organizers took a moment to explain what&#8217;s going on.  Here&#8217;s the rundown of the wifi usage during yesterday&#8217;s keynote: 2032 concurrent wireless users 3842 active dhcp leases 4373 unique devices &#8211; please keep in mind there are 3000 people at Drupalcon 70M down [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright" title="Free Wifi" src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2451/3678423649_aea890e760_m.jpg" alt="" width="240" height="180" />There has been some complaints of the wifi at Drupalcon dropping.  The organizers took a moment to explain what&#8217;s going on.  Here&#8217;s the rundown of the wifi usage during yesterday&#8217;s keynote:</p>
<ul>
<li>2032 concurrent wireless users</li>
<li>3842 active dhcp leases</li>
<li>4373 unique devices &#8211; please keep in mind there are 3000 people at Drupalcon</li>
<li>70M down the 100M pipe available</li>
<li>2.4 ghz frequency range was complete saturated.</li>
<li>5 ghz frequency range had lots of room</li>
</ul>
<p>So it turns out, the problem is old wireless hardware&#8230;and almost 1.5 wifi devices per person <img src='http://eclecti.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The thing I love most, is that they took five minutes to explain this to us today.  These&#8230;these are my people <img src='http://eclecti.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p style="text-align: right;"><span style="color: #808080;">Photo by http://www.flickr.com/photos/jkannenberg/3678423649/sizes/s/in/photostream/</span></p>
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		<title>Too Many Current Pages</title>
		<link>http://eclecti.ca/2010/04/too-many-current-pages/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 02:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Hacking Night In Canada</title>
		<link>http://eclecti.ca/2009/11/hacking-night-in-canada/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 05:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Spent then tail part of my Saturday watching hockey and coding.  I&#8217;m sure Jamie would be proud.  And likely doing the same thing. It&#8217;s always great to decide to fix some code and things pretty much work out the way you want.  Tonight I wanted to add a listing of the Tags for each post [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spent then tail part of my Saturday watching hockey and coding.  I&#8217;m sure Jamie would be proud.  And likely doing the same thing.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s always great to decide to fix some code and things pretty much work out the way you want.  Tonight I wanted to add a listing of the Tags for each post to Single Post view to the theme I&#8217;m using for this site.  <a title="Cellar Heat" href="http://www.cellarheat.com/" target="_blank">Cellar Heat</a> is a great theme and working with it was awesome.  Its a great theme with great code build on the pure awesome of WordPress.</p>
<p>Pretty much the only thing I wanted in the theme that wasn&#8217;t already there was the listing of tags for each post.  I don&#8217;t mind tags not being included on the post excerpts on the front page and side bar.  I did think that tags should be included with the full post view&#8230;so I added them.</p>
<p>First I found the WordPress documentation on the calling the <a title="WordPress Template Tags: The Tags" href="http://codex.wordpress.org/Template_Tags/the_tags" target="_blank">Template Tag &#8220;the tags&#8221;</a> (a bit of unfortunately confusion naming by WP there&#8230;).  Easy and straight forward, I dropped in some code to get the tags in the full post view.</p>
<p>Keeping in mind I&#8217;m using the 1.0 version of Cellar Light, I added this div just before the second&#8221;&lt;br clear=&#8221;all&#8221; /&gt;&#8221;</p>
<pre>&lt;div id="tags"&gt;
 &lt;?php the_tags('Tags: ',' • '); ?&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;</pre>
<p>I then added a bit of styling.  I wanted the tags to be visible but not a visual focus.  To accomplish this, I dropped the font size down to 10px, moved it to a right alignment and used the opacity style to soften it&#8217;s look.  I started off with just using italics, but it still looked too heavy.  I was delighted that I just assumed there was an opacity feature in CSS, having never used it before, and then found <a title="CSS Opacity" href="http://www.quirksmode.org/css/opacity.html" target="_blank">exactly how to do use it on Quirksmode.org</a>.  The article includes important tips on IE compatibility for the opacity effect.  I&#8217;ve tested with IE 8 and I&#8217;m happy with that.  Here&#8217;s the CSS code I added to the stylesheet:</p>
<pre>#tags {
      font-size:10px;
      text-align:right;
      opacity: .35;
      -ms-filter:"progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.Alpha(Opacity=50)"; // IE(8) opacity magic
      filter: alpha(opacity=50);                    // more IE(7) opacity magic
}</pre>
<p>And that&#8217;s it!  Good times.  Good Hockey.  And even caught some of The Rockey Horror Picture Show.  All in all, a lovely evening.  I think I might move the dark version of the Cellar Heat&#8230;the rounded corners and the look of the footer is tipping the balance.  I expect this code to just work with the dark version, if I do end up making the switch.</p>
<p>You can see the result of the changes I made at the bottom of this post&#8230;or any post.  If you like this work, you&#8217;re welcome to it &#8211; although I would appreciate a comment or email telling me that you found this helpful.</p>
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		<title>Opera Unite Lounge Test Transcript</title>
		<link>http://eclecti.ca/2009/06/opera-unite-lounge-test-transcript/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is the transcript The Lounge loaded 15:07:59 seanyo joined the loungeroom. 15:08:24 chyatt joined the loungeroom. 15:08:29 seanyo: hey dude 15:08:37 chyatt: aloha 15:08:55 This is pretty bitching 15:08:58 seanyo: were you just hammering away at trying it? 15:09:03 My local firewall was in the way 15:09:05 had to sort that out 15:09:08 this [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the transcript</p>
<p><span id="more-65"></span>The Lounge loaded<br />
15:07:59</p>
<p>seanyo joined the loungeroom.<br />
15:08:24</p>
<p>chyatt joined the loungeroom.<br />
15:08:29<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>hey dude<br />
15:08:37<br />
chyatt:</p>
<p>aloha<br />
15:08:55</p>
<p>This is pretty bitching<br />
15:08:58<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>were you just hammering away at trying it?<br />
15:09:03</p>
<p>My local firewall was in the way<br />
15:09:05</p>
<p>had to sort that out<br />
15:09:08</p>
<p>this is amazing<br />
15:09:19<br />
chyatt:</p>
<p>phonecall</p>
<p>15:10:06</p>
<p>Heather joined the loungeroom.<br />
15:12:33<br />
chyatt:</p>
<p>and we&#8217;re back<br />
15:12:50</p>
<p>do I really have to physically click the send button?<br />
15:12:59</p>
<p>yes<br />
15:13:04<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>hello!<br />
15:13:07</p>
<p>nope<br />
15:13:08<br />
chyatt:</p>
<p>tab works<br />
15:13:09<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>I can hit enter<br />
15:13:13</p>
<p>in Opera at least<br />
15:13:20<br />
chyatt:</p>
<p>I have to tab first in FF<br />
15:13:23<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>grim<br />
15:13:25</p>
<p>let me try safari<br />
15:14:12</p>
<p>still there?<br />
15:15:00</p>
<p>evilseanyo joined the loungeroom.<br />
15:15:07<br />
evilseanyo:</p>
<p>hi<br />
15:15:10</p>
<p>how are you?<br />
15:15:17</p>
<p>this is Sean on Safari on Windows<br />
15:15:24</p>
<p>I can just hit enter and send<br />
15:15:35</p>
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15:15:45<br />
fakeseanyo:</p>
<p>Sean on FF on Windows<br />
15:15:53</p>
<p>Again&#8230;enter works to send<br />
15:15:55</p>
<p>dmacmillan joined the loungeroom.<br />
15:15:59<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>welcome!<br />
15:16:06</p>
<p>Jan joined the loungeroom.<br />
15:16:08<br />
dmacmillan:</p>
<p>hello<br />
15:16:14<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m super impressed with Opera<br />
15:16:24</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve &#8220;been nice to Opera&#8221; for a long time<br />
15:16:25</p>
<p>453t4r3gdf joined the loungeroom.<br />
15:16:36<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>Being Acid3 compliant is impressive on its own<br />
15:16:52</p>
<p>Giving everyone a webserver is outrageously cool<br />
15:17:31</p>
<p>what browser/OS are people using?<br />
15:18:06<br />
453t4r3gdf:</p>
<p>Firefox, Linux<br />
15:18:30<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>How does it look for you?<br />
15:18:54</p>
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seanyo:</p>
<p>Craig:are you in Chrome?<br />
15:19:04<br />
453t4r3gdf:</p>
<p>seems very fine, tho I don&#8217;t see why I would use this instead of IRC any time soon<br />
15:19:10<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>fair enough<br />
15:19:23</p>
<p>IRC isn&#8217;t friendly for civilians &lt;grin&gt;<br />
15:19:28</p>
<p>/me smiles<br />
15:19:37</p>
<p>even if it doesn&#8217;t parse IRC emotes<br />
15:19:38</p>
<p>&lt;grin&gt;<br />
15:19:54<br />
453t4r3gdf:</p>
<p>tho it sure as hell beats the java irc apps for support-chats e.t.c. for small biz and so on (unless hacked, spamed and so on)<br />
15:20:02<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>I suspect IRC wielding Linux users are likely not the core target for this tool &lt;grin&gt;<br />
15:20:07<br />
453t4r3gdf:</p>
<p>hehe<br />
15:20:16<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>Looks like you can code services for this platform too<br />
15:20:23</p>
<p>The dev site has a demo of a simple blog<br />
15:20:32<br />
chyatt:</p>
<p>negative. ff<br />
15:20:36<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>Not exactly the Blog in 15 minutes a la Ruby on Rails<br />
15:20:37<br />
chyatt:</p>
<p>but now enter works<br />
15:20:40<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>but still impressive and interesting<br />
15:20:48</p>
<p>Thanks craig<br />
15:20:58</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve trying Opera, FF and Safari on Windows so far.<br />
15:21:00<br />
453t4r3gdf:</p>
<p>I do use Windows, mostly when I wanna game some.. Windows 7 RC  Suppose I&#8217;m not realy in the target demo anyway<br />
15:21:08<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>Anyone using IE (and willing to admit it &lt;grin&gt;)<br />
15:21:24<br />
453t4r3gdf:</p>
<p>I do have Opera and Firefox installed here and Chrome in addition in Wintendo 7<br />
15:21:46<br />
chyatt:</p>
<p>chrome coming up<br />
15:21:55<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>Wintendo 7<br />
15:21:57</p>
<p>Hehehe<br />
15:22:00</p>
<p>that&#8217;s hilarious<br />
15:22:09</p>
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seanyo:</p>
<p>how does that look craig?<br />
15:22:32</p>
<p>Do you see any history? Or only what&#8217;s been entered since you joined?<br />
15:23:03<br />
chyatt:</p>
<p>can&#8217;t get a cursor in the text box on chrome. no history. just since I joined.<br />
15:23:35<br />
chyatt_on_chrome:</p>
<p>If I first insert a smiley I can now get a cursor<br />
15:23:40</p>
<p>weird<br />
15:24:07<br />
453t4r3gdf:</p>
<p>it won&#8217;t have history shared between computers/browsers I suppose, would require a useraccount<br />
15:24:13</p>
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seanyo:</p>
<p>IE in the Hizzouse!<br />
15:24:26<br />
chyatt_on_ie8:</p>
<p>cursor. check. enter.<br />
15:24:29</p>
<p>check<br />
15:24:51</p>
<p>where&#8217;s the multimedia? photos?<br />
15:24:52<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>453t4r3gdf:I though the server might just cough up a buffer of the last 25 lines or whatever&#8230;<br />
15:24:58</p>
<p>All separate apps<br />
15:25:02</p>
<p>I can fire some up<br />
15:25:05</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the Fridge<br />
15:25:09<br />
chyatt_on_ie8:</p>
<p>where is the silverlight &lt;grin&gt;<br />
15:25:15</p>
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seanyo:</p>
<p>Welcome James!<br />
15:25:26</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s My Fridge<br />
15:25:27</p>
<p>http://work.seanyo.operaunite.com/fridge/</p>
<p>15:25:35<br />
James:</p>
<p>Nice.<br />
15:25:36<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>IT&#8217;s a sticky note thingy<br />
15:25:36<br />
bRobi:</p>
<p>Supp?<br />
15:25:40</p>
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seanyo:</p>
<p>Just getting my Opera Unite one<br />
15:25:48</p>
<p>on<br />
15:25:49</p>
<p>good times<br />
15:26:00<br />
bRobi:</p>
<p>Lol nice.<br />
15:26:02<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>Wow &#8211; this is turning in to a capacity test for the Lounge app<br />
15:26:03</p>
<p>heheh<br />
15:26:03<br />
randomChars_ie:</p>
<p>well, IE6 in VirtualBox<br />
15:26:12<br />
bRobi:</p>
<p>I like the file sharing app too.<br />
15:26:12</p>
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seanyo:</p>
<p>VikingGirl<br />
15:26:18</p>
<p>Hrm&#8230;<br />
15:26:24</p>
<p>I wonder who that is?<br />
15:26:32</p>
<p>Clearly someone totally awesome<br />
15:26:35<br />
bRobi:</p>
<p>My friends all have access to my 80 gigs of music. Haha.<br />
15:26:36</p>
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seanyo:</p>
<p>Vikings == Awesome<br />
15:26:39</p>
<p>Girls == Awesome<br />
15:26:45</p>
<p>15:26:46<br />
randomChars_ie7:</p>
<p>so there<br />
15:26:52</p>
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15:26:58<br />
VikingGirl:</p>
<p>Hey Sean&#8211;how&#8217;s it going? What&#8217;s this OperaUnite thing?<br />
15:27:01<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>So &#8211; the Opera Unite server has a slideup alter in the system train<br />
15:27:02<br />
James:</p>
<p>This is pretty fast. You can apparently also config this as a proxy.<br />
15:27:03<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>tray<br />
15:27:05</p>
<p>system tray<br />
15:27:05<br />
randomChars_ie7:</p>
<p>how many clients can you sustain Sean?:P<br />
15:27:15<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>so when people join the room<br />
15:27:18<br />
randomChars_ie7:</p>
<p>James, why would you?<br />
15:27:19<br />
bRobi:</p>
<p>Hope we don&#8217;t crash your comp seanyo. lol<br />
15:27:20<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>or add a note to my fridge<br />
15:27:21</p>
<p>http://work.seanyo.operaunite.com/fridge/</p>
<p>15:27:21<br />
randomChars_ie7:</p>
<p>you have Coral<br />
15:27:38<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>I get a little alert<br />
15:27:49<br />
chyatt_on_chrome:</p>
<p>where is everyone coming from? twitter?<br />
15:27:55<br />
James:</p>
<p>rChars_ie7: Dunno, maybe to help folks get a demorcacy half way &#8217;round the planet. Or for lulz.<br />
15:27:57</p>
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fakeseanyo:</p>
<p>welcome!<br />
15:28:11<br />
bRobi:</p>
<p>lol!<br />
15:28:14<br />
fakeseanyo:</p>
<p>I do cross post to FB, so they might be coming from there as well<br />
15:28:16</p>
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subsomatic:</p>
<p>huh. pretty slick<br />
15:28:30</p>
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randomChars_ie7:</p>
<p>sean: well, now I can&#8217;t remember howI ended up here<br />
15:28:43<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>woohoo!<br />
15:28:46</p>
<p>Opera Unite Party<br />
15:28:53<br />
randomChars_ie7:</p>
<p>random &#8220;let&#8217;s see lounge run&#8221; link<br />
15:29:00<br />
James:</p>
<p>Sean: what&#8217;s this on, response is really good for this sort of load.<br />
15:29:07<br />
VikingGirl:</p>
<p>Between this and twitter, I will get nothing done.<br />
15:29:08<br />
bRobi:</p>
<p>I wonder how many posts it would take to crash your comp. O.o<br />
15:29:19<br />
randomChars_ie7:</p>
<p>sean: what&#8217;s your upload speed?<br />
15:29:25</p>
<p>and location<br />
15:29:48<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>that was weird&#8230; it didn&#8217;t want to let me in!<br />
15:29:58<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>This is my Dell workstation<br />
15:30:03</p>
<p>just a plain old computer<br />
15:30:11</p>
<p>yay for getting nothing done!<br />
15:30:23</p>
<p>To be fair I am on a research network<br />
15:30:25<br />
453t4r3gdf:</p>
<p>grats, welcome to the timewaster we all know and love, the interwebs<br />
15:30:28<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>since I work on campus<br />
15:30:54<br />
James:</p>
<p>Yeah, Sean works in the Bullring ;-P<br />
15:30:57<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>so &#8211; I have l33t interwebz<br />
15:31:00</p>
<p>ha<br />
15:31:01</p>
<p>ha<br />
15:31:01</p>
<p>ha<br />
15:31:13</p>
<p>It has been many years since I worked in the Bullring &lt;grin&gt;<br />
15:31:24</p>
<p>I wonder if this all falls apart if Opera Unite goes down<br />
15:31:38</p>
<p>BTW you can password protect the chat<br />
15:31:45</p>
<p>and I think you only get the one room<br />
15:31:56<br />
subsomatic:</p>
<p>how hard was it to set up?<br />
15:31:58<br />
James:</p>
<p>Nice for one of the Dells. I would be happy with the response. &#8230; ooo 95% on my Clonezilla job<br />
15:32:02<br />
bRobi:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think so&#8230;since it&#8217;s run from your comp, it should probably still be stable.<br />
15:32:25<br />
James:</p>
<p>Sean: could you run multiple rooms in multiple browser iterations?<br />
15:32:38<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>yup<br />
15:32:41</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you could<br />
15:32:44</p>
<p>or on multiple computers<br />
15:32:49<br />
453t4r3gdf:</p>
<p>depends how it is set up<br />
15:32:55<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>so an ubergeek such as myself could easily run 3 or 4 rooms at a time &lt;grin&gt;<br />
15:33:10</p>
<p>The Dev site has stuff on how to code Unite Apps, with a blog as an example<br />
15:33:22</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure multi-room chat is not far off<br />
15:33:35</p>
<p>along with some hybrid P2Pfileshare + torrent app<br />
15:33:48<br />
James:</p>
<p>Fun, wow!<br />
15:34:07<br />
453t4r3gdf:</p>
<p>/asd<br />
15:34:19</p>
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15:34:33<br />
453t4r3gdf:</p>
<p>well, no, it unite falls down, this&#8217;ll fall down<br />
15:35:03<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>I can kick people&#8230;<br />
15:35:06</p>
<p>can&#8217;t give admin<br />
15:35:10</p>
<p>and can&#8217;t change their username<br />
15:35:14</p>
<p>even if it&#8217;s TERRIBLE<br />
15:35:17<br />
James:</p>
<p>that&#8217;ll come later<br />
15:35:21<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking at you 453blahblahblah<br />
15:35:23</p>
<p>15:35:24<br />
OverLord:</p>
<p>thaat&#8217;s harsh man<br />
15:35:27<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>dupes for trying browsers? you mean, I didn&#8217;t ahve to download Opera 10???<br />
15:35:31<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>heheh<br />
15:35:33</p>
<p>nope<br />
15:35:39<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>blarg<br />
15:35:45<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>I think we have FF, Opera, Chrome and Safari all tested<br />
15:35:50</p>
<p>all on windows<br />
15:35:55</p>
<p>FF on Linux<br />
15:35:56<br />
453t4r3gdf:</p>
<p>and IE6 and 7<br />
15:35:57<br />
subsomatic:</p>
<p>firefox on ubuntu is working<br />
15:36:02</p>
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seanyo:</p>
<p>any mac users yet?<br />
15:36:10</p>
<p>should I go and grab the team macbook?<br />
15:36:22<br />
453t4r3gdf:</p>
<p>randomChar_ie and ie7 are instances from my XP running in VirtualBox<br />
15:36:23<br />
James2:</p>
<p>whoa double screened<br />
15:36:23<br />
subsomatic:</p>
<p>ok. back to work. bais.<br />
15:36:24<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>totally thought it was a proprietary opera thing<br />
15:36:25<br />
453t4r3gdf:</p>
<p>out of boredom<br />
15:36:30<br />
OverLord:</p>
<p>how much RAM does this use Sean?<br />
15:36:37</p>
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15:36:51<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>let me check<br />
15:36:55</p>
<p>hello spellbunny<br />
15:36:59</p>
<p>if that is really you<br />
15:36:59<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>Hello<br />
15:37:03<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>and not evilspellbunny<br />
15:37:03<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>it&#8217;s really me<br />
15:37:05<br />
OverLord:</p>
<p>kk<br />
15:37:06<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>Duh duh dummmmmmm<br />
15:37:27</p>
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James:</p>
<p>that&#8217;s another small flaw, no uid authentication other than a password on the chat&#8230;<br />
15:37:41<br />
James2:</p>
<p>this should totally take OpenID<br />
15:37:47<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>Open IDwould be awesome<br />
15:37:49<br />
randomChars_o:</p>
<p>openID meme<br />
15:37:52<br />
OverLord:</p>
<p>that would be cool<br />
15:38:03<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>I suspect the development will be fast and furiious for Opera Unite<br />
15:38:06</p>
<p>this is crazy awesome<br />
15:38:06<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>pacman<br />
15:38:09<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>RAM report<br />
15:38:09<br />
randomChars_o:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like openID, just one pwd to get into lots of places:P<br />
15:38:17<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>hehe &#8211; that&#8217;s the first emotion I used too. Srsly<br />
15:38:25<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>zomg<br />
15:38:32<br />
James2:</p>
<p>randomChars_o: precisely<br />
15:38:34<br />
OverLord:</p>
<p>password is not a password<br />
15:38:37<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>100, 000 K or so of RAM<br />
15:38:45<br />
OverLord:</p>
<p>nice<br />
15:38:50<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>assuming there isn&#8217;t some hidden other process<br />
15:38:57</p>
<p>that *might* just be the browser<br />
15:39:01</p>
<p>but /me shrugs<br />
15:39:16<br />
James:</p>
<p>not bad anyway<br />
15:39:21<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>for sure<br />
15:39:23<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>whoa, hello lag<br />
15:39:27<br />
OverLord:</p>
<p>is the room persistant?<br />
15:39:31<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>yup<br />
15:39:35</p>
<p>the room is persistant<br />
15:39:35<br />
James2:</p>
<p>beats the heck out of iRC<br />
15:39:46<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>re: packman &#8211; more evidence that seanyo = spellbunny?<br />
15:39:50<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>Well, Mr. 453blahblahblah doesn&#8217;t agree &lt;grin&gt;<br />
15:39:55<br />
OverLord:</p>
<p>yeah&#8230; I might be able to use this for SFS<br />
15:39:56<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>re: pacman&#8230;I know!<br />
15:39:58<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>indeed<br />
15:40:03<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>SFS?<br />
15:40:09<br />
randomChars_o:</p>
<p>neither do my aliases randomChar_*<br />
15:40:21<br />
453t4r3gdf:</p>
<p>so there!<br />
15:40:29<br />
OverLord:</p>
<p>Student Finance<br />
15:40:40<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>re: persistance &#8211; I can leave and close my window, but I won&#8217;t see anthying that happens. If Iclose opera I think *then* the room dies<br />
15:40:42</p>
<p>ah<br />
15:40:44</p>
<p>yeah!@<br />
15:40:49</p>
<p>this would be a great support tool<br />
15:40:55<br />
OverLord:</p>
<p>ahhh<br />
15:40:56<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>there&#8217;s also files sharing<br />
15:41:00<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>how are you bolding!<br />
15:41:04</p>
<p>*bold* ?<br />
15:41:06<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>* asdfasdf *(<br />
15:41:08<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>MWAHAAAA<br />
15:41:09<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>* bold *<br />
15:41:11</p>
<p>*bold*<br />
15:41:12</p>
<p>like that<br />
15:41:19<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>*behold my bold*<br />
15:41:24<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>heheh<br />
15:41:29</p>
<p>*asdf asdf*<br />
15:41:32</p>
<p>*asdf*<br />
15:41:32<br />
453t4r3gdf:</p>
<p>well, I&#8217;m not quite sure how this will go up against Google waves<br />
15:41:35<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>no spaces<br />
15:41:37<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>has to be a contiguous string<br />
15:41:39<br />
453t4r3gdf:</p>
<p>_sure_<br />
15:41:42<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>*boldbold* *bold bold*<br />
15:42:00<br />
OverLord:</p>
<p>does it use Texttile?<br />
15:42:00<br />
James2:</p>
<p>*kobold*<br />
15:42:07</p>
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seanyo:</p>
<p>453IwishIcouldchangeyourusername:an excellent point.<br />
15:42:09</p>
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453t4r3gdf:</p>
<p>hehe<br />
15:42:18<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>But the big difference is Google Wave is still in the cloud<br />
15:42:27</p>
<p>in theory Opera Unite turns the tables<br />
15:42:31<br />
mdenny:</p>
<p>Alrgiht.<br />
15:42:31<br />
453t4r3gdf:</p>
<p>don&#8217;t think i can change it myself either, wo signing out anyway<br />
15:42:34<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>and gives everyone their own server&#8230;<br />
15:42:53<br />
mdenny:</p>
<p>15:43:04<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>mdenny<br />
15:43:04<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>Still &#8211; if it *has* to be piped through the Opera Unite server, is it really any different?<br />
15:43:08</p>
<p>Hi Rhi!<br />
15:43:11</p>
<p>sqweee!<br />
15:43:21<br />
OverLord:</p>
<p>anyway to make pesistant user accounts and restrict to those account?<br />
15:43:32<br />
rhiannon:</p>
<p>hi!<br />
15:43:33<br />
OverLord:</p>
<p>persistant<br />
15:43:39<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think so<br />
15:43:46<br />
rhiannon:</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t been in a chat room since 1999<br />
15:43:47<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it even uses Opera.com accounts<br />
15:43:50<br />
mdenny:</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing.<br />
15:43:56<br />
OverLord:</p>
<p>lol<br />
15:43:59<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>thanks for coming.<br />
15:44:03</p>
<p>THis is awesome<br />
15:44:11</p>
<p>Ain&#8217;t no party like an Opera party!<br />
15:44:15<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>mdenny is greyed out, just sayin<br />
15:44:15<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>/me shakes his money maker<br />
15:44:47<br />
453t4r3gdf:</p>
<p>sean: my point, atm I&#8217;m sending and fetching data to/from work.seanyo.operaunite.com, which apparently is located in Oslo ?<br />
15:44:48<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s some of the documentation I have as the host:<br />
15:44:49<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>how are your messages in yellow stacy?<br />
15:44:55<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>In The Lounge you can host a chat in your loungeroom with friends directly on your computer. Your friends do not need to run Opera Unite to chat; any standards-compliant Web browser will do.</p>
<p>Click &#8220;Invite&#8221; to display a unique URL that you can send to anyone you want to include in your loungeroom.</p>
<p>Write comments and add emoticons in the bottom panel and click &#8220;Send&#8221; to post them.</p>
<p>You can control who is chatting in your loungeroom. To remove someone, click their nickname and in &#8220;User Details&#8221;, click &#8220;Kick User&#8221;.</p>
<p>To leave but still display The Lounge, click &#8220;Sign out&#8221;.</p>
<p>To leave and close the tab, click the &#8220;Close&#8221; icon on the tab.</p>
<p>To stop hosting chats in The Lounge, right-click The Lounge in the panel and select &#8220;Stop service&#8221;.</p>
<p>Note: If you leave and return to the loungeroom, you will be able to see comments while you were away.</p>
<p>To make your loungeroom a bit more private, check &#8220;Enable Password&#8221;.<br />
15:45:07</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what the colours mean&#8230;<br />
15:45:10</p>
<p>the gray user name<br />
15:45:16</p>
<p>and the yellow/ivory posts&#8230;<br />
15:45:18<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>if you mention someone, it becomes yellow &gt; saffyre9<br />
15:45:19</p>
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15:45:21<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>i imagine<br />
15:45:27<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>hah, nope!<br />
15:45:30<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>medenny<br />
15:45:35</p>
<p>mdenny:asdf<br />
15:45:37<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>seanyo ?<br />
15:45:39<br />
453t4r3gdf:</p>
<p>apparently hosted by TDC Song<br />
15:45:39<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>mdenny:<br />
15:45:39<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>seanyo<br />
15:45:41<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>seanyo<br />
15:45:42<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>random<br />
15:45:45<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>my own username is grey&#8230; to me, anyway. But so is mdenny&#8217;s.<br />
15:45:52<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>Maybe you&#8217;re mdenny<br />
15:46:00<br />
pvilchez:</p>
<p>@seanyo: Re your last tweet: confirm working on FF and Safari4 for mac.<br />
15:46:01<br />
James:</p>
<p>have you seen them together?<br />
15:46:03<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>maybe I am!!! wmahahahah<br />
15:46:19<br />
pvilchez:</p>
<p>And Opera, obviously.<br />
15:47:07<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>?_?<br />
15:47:19<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>I can hear spellbunny giggling<br />
15:47:33<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>see yellow cuz you said my name!<br />
15:47:42<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>it&#8217;s not yellow for me!<br />
15:47:48<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>weird<br />
15:47:55</p>
<p>I was giggling at my serious face: ?_?<br />
15:48:00<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>@pvilchez:thanks! I&#8217;m just booting up the team mac &lt;grin&gt;<br />
15:48:01</p>
<p>cool beans<br />
15:48:13</p>
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15:48:22<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>I know (I could hear you)<br />
15:48:28</p>
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15:48:32<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>So in terms of RAM, Opera still is around 100, 000 K<br />
15:48:41<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>OH SHIT YOUR&#8217;E RIGHT BEHIND ME<br />
15:48:42<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>Of note, Limewire is 265, 000 K<br />
15:48:45</p>
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15:48:53<br />
James:</p>
<p>For the number of users that&#8217;s excellent.<br />
15:48:57<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>LMAO<br />
15:48:58<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>and right now FFis 427,000 K<br />
15:49:09<br />
James:</p>
<p>Limewire? That is so 2006<br />
15:49:12<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>Even Tweetdeck is using more memory<br />
15:49:30</p>
<p>I&#8217;m listing by memusage<br />
15:49:32<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>hm<br />
15:49:46<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>ff, limewire, zimbradesktop, tweetdeck, safari then opera<br />
15:49:48<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>turning off css doesnt break the page = impressive<br />
15:49:52</p>
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15:50:01<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>well it&#8217;s ugly but chat works<br />
15:50:01<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>How does it look on Camino?<br />
15:50:04</p>
<p>really!?<br />
15:50:08</p>
<p>no css and it works!<br />
15:50:20<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>yes<br />
15:50:21</p>
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fakeseanyo:</p>
<p>hi<br />
15:50:30</p>
<p>zomg<br />
15:50:31<br />
PaulOnCamino:</p>
<p>It looks the same on all 5 browsers I have open.<br />
15:50:33<br />
fakeseanyo:</p>
<p>no css chat<br />
15:50:39</p>
<p>this is hella impressive<br />
15:50:58<br />
453t4r3gdf:</p>
<p>hella impressive .. ?!<br />
15:51:01</p>
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15:51:01</p>
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15:51:14<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>hmmm&#8230; but will it work in JAWS???<br />
15:51:27<br />
mdenny:</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t update as quickly as I&#8217;d like.<br />
15:51:49<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m moving to a differnt computer to see what the lag looks like<br />
15:51:52</p>
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15:52:00<br />
mdenny:</p>
<p>Its only a lag on first load.<br />
15:52:07</p>
<p>Hey Dawn.<br />
15:52:08</p>
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15:52:16<br />
iSeanYo:</p>
<p>hello<br />
15:52:18<br />
PaulOnCamino:</p>
<p>@saffyre9 looking at the page source, I don&#8217;t jaws would be particularly happy.<br />
15:52:27<br />
iSeanYo:</p>
<p>This is FF on le MacBook<br />
15:52:28</p>
<p>looks great<br />
15:52:28<br />
PaulOnCamino:</p>
<p>think*<br />
15:52:37<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>ohh, that reply to me is in yellow!<br />
15:52:44<br />
iSeanYo:</p>
<p>lag doesn&#8217;t seem to bad<br />
15:52:47</p>
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15:52:50<br />
iSeanYo:</p>
<p>maybe cause I&#8217;m local-ish<br />
15:52:54<br />
mdenny:</p>
<p>oh&#8230; hey @saffyre9<br />
15:52:56<br />
iSeanYo:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m on a different subnet<br />
15:52:59</p>
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15:53:01<br />
iSeanYo:</p>
<p>this macbook is on wireless<br />
15:53:14</p>
<p>the other browsers I have open are all the same workstation<br />
15:53:16<br />
mdenny:</p>
<p>no yeller here.<br />
15:53:17<br />
James:</p>
<p>@iSeanYo I see no lag, but then we&#8217;re on the same network, diff. subnets.<br />
15:53:19<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>my comment re: lag was cuz it refused to deliver a message I typed&#8230; but it later gave me an error<br />
15:53:28<br />
iSeanYo:</p>
<p>mdenny:is the lag for your own posts<br />
15:53:35</p>
<p>or the updates in general?<br />
15:53:38<br />
mdenny:</p>
<p>funny. &lt;enter&gt; doesnt submit &#8211; need to hit send.<br />
15:53:40<br />
iSeanYo:</p>
<p>oh<br />
15:53:49<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>hmm&#8230; so it turns yellow if you use the @ symbol? @mdenny hi<br />
15:53:53<br />
iSeanYo:</p>
<p>does the highlight happen when YOUR name is in the message?<br />
15:53:56</p>
<p>saffyre9<br />
15:54:02<br />
PaulOnFlock:</p>
<p>Uh oh. Chromium wouldn&#8217;t let me type in a message.<br />
15:54:02<br />
iSeanYo:</p>
<p>is that yellow for you?<br />
15:54:03</p>
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15:54:04<br />
iSeanYo:</p>
<p>mdenny<br />
15:54:05<br />
mdenny:</p>
<p>yes. @iseanyo<br />
15:54:09<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>yeah, that last one was<br />
15:54:13</p>
<p>it seems to be random<br />
15:54:15<br />
iSeanYo:</p>
<p>PaulOnflock:try clicking an emoticon first<br />
15:54:31<br />
joverton:</p>
<p>so you can have multiple logins from the same IP<br />
15:54:31<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>cuz @spellbunny&#8217;s first reply to @mdenny was also yellow for me<br />
15:54:36<br />
iSeanYo:</p>
<p>I think the highlight is any message with your id in it<br />
15:54:44<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>methinks there are some bugs still<br />
15:54:49<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>i think yellow is random<br />
15:54:51<br />
PaulOnChromium:</p>
<p>Ah, good call. But it should still work without a workaround.<br />
15:55:06<br />
mdenny:</p>
<p>k</p>
<p>k &#8211; so that second message with my name as the second @ ref did not turn yellow<br />
15:55:11<br />
iSeanYo:</p>
<p>joverton: I have 4 sessions connected on my workstation<br />
15:55:14</p>
<p>meddy<br />
15:55:17</p>
<p>mdenny<br />
15:55:19<br />
PaulOnChromium:</p>
<p>Testing for yellow: @PaulOnCamino<br />
15:55:21<br />
iSeanYo:</p>
<p>did that restyle?<br />
15:55:25<br />
mdenny:</p>
<p>hmm.. @spellbunny (yellow?)<br />
15:55:32<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>hah.. and that message to joverton was yellow for me too<br />
15:55:35<br />
PaulOnCamino:</p>
<p>no yellow.<br />
15:55:39<br />
iSeanYo:</p>
<p>no idea<br />
15:55:42<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>only msg to joverton was yellow<br />
15:55:44<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>oh, and my own message re: joverton was as well!<br />
15:55:48<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>and the one saffyre9 just did<br />
15:55:48<br />
mdenny:</p>
<p>@iseanyo @spellbunny (yellow?)<br />
15:55:52<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>hmm&#8230; joverton<br />
15:55:53<br />
iSeanYo:</p>
<p>that was yellow for me<br />
15:56:02<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>joverton is special, all yellow<br />
15:56:03</p>
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15:56:07<br />
mdenny:</p>
<p>don&#8217;t need the @?<br />
15:56:09<br />
PaulOnCamino:</p>
<p>yellow = joverton<br />
15:56:12<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>all messages that include the word joverton are yellow<br />
15:56:13<br />
PaulOnCamino:</p>
<p>nope.<br />
15:56:14<br />
mdenny:</p>
<p>iseanyo yeller<br />
15:56:17<br />
OverLord:</p>
<p>yeah its yellow to OverLord as well<br />
15:56:18<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>oh, but not anymore<br />
15:56:22<br />
mdenny:</p>
<p>cool<br />
15:56:24<br />
phoenixmike:</p>
<p>he looks yeller to me<br />
15:56:40<br />
mdenny:</p>
<p>this is good.<br />
15:56:45</p>
<p>good start.<br />
15:56:51<br />
joverton:</p>
<p>that&#8217;s just &#8217;cause I&#8217;m not getting enough sun<br />
15:56:53<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>for the record, mdenny is no longer grey for me either<br />
15:57:07<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>me neither<br />
15:57:10</p>
<p>but now i am<br />
15:57:26<br />
iSeanYo:</p>
<p>maybe it&#8217;s an easteregg<br />
15:57:27<br />
joverton:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m grey as well<br />
15:57:28<br />
iSeanYo:</p>
<p>ColourTag<br />
15:57:30</p>
<p>&lt;grin&gt;<br />
15:57:43</p>
<p>Imma kick someone &#8211; just to try<br />
15:57:45<br />
joverton:</p>
<p>age discrimination!!!<br />
15:57:46<br />
mdenny:</p>
<p>So lets talk about the interwebs or twitter&#8230;<br />
15:57:58</p>
<p>PaulOnCamino was kicked from the loungeroom.<br />
15:58:02<br />
mdenny:</p>
<p>iseanyo is yellow. Just saying.<br />
15:58:02<br />
phoenixmike:</p>
<p>heh heh<br />
15:58:03<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>mwahahaha!<br />
15:58:10</p>
<p>interesting that<br />
15:58:14<br />
phoenixmike:</p>
<p>that seems like something Evil Sean Yo would do&#8230;<br />
15:58:14<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>oh no you&#8217;ve grown evil with power<br />
15:58:14<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>it&#8217;s announced to the room<br />
15:58:20</p>
<p>EvilSeanYo isn&#8217;t the admin<br />
15:58:29<br />
phoenixmike:</p>
<p>And thank goodness for that<br />
15:58:29<br />
rhiannon:</p>
<p>15:58:29<br />
Paul:</p>
<p>Hey!<br />
15:58:30<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>to be fair, he is holding a derringer to my head<br />
15:58:31<br />
OverLord:</p>
<p>good thing<br />
15:58:32<br />
Paul:</p>
<p>15:58:44<br />
phoenixmike:</p>
<p>Paul, you missed a good lunch.<br />
15:58:44<br />
mdenny:</p>
<p>&lt;strong&gt;Test?&lt;/strong&gt;<br />
15:58:50</p>
<p>bah<br />
15:58:52<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>lmao<br />
15:58:55<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>*strong*<br />
15:59:01<br />
Paul:</p>
<p>&lt;em&gt;More test.&lt;/em&gt;<br />
15:59:10<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>&lt;blink&gt;thank god this doesn&#8217;t work&lt;/blink&gt;<br />
15:59:17<br />
OverLord:</p>
<p>lol<br />
15:59:18<br />
mdenny:</p>
<p>&lt;sarcasm&gt;Hmm&lt;/sarcasm&gt;<br />
15:59:31</p>
<p>*strong***stronger**<br />
15:59:41</p>
<p>********************************strongest***<br />
15:59:47</p>
<p>/em/<br />
15:59:50</p>
<p>\em\<br />
15:59:53</p>
<p>hmm&#8230;<br />
16:00:02</p>
<p>[[hmm]]<br />
16:00:05</p>
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16:00:13<br />
mdenny:</p>
<p>where be the &lt;i&gt;?<br />
16:00:20</p>
<p>.em.<br />
16:00:23</p>
<p>grrr<br />
16:00:25<br />
PaulOnChromium:</p>
<p>_italic_<br />
16:00:30</p>
<p>damn.<br />
16:00:30<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>/italics?/<br />
16:00:32</p>
<p>nope<br />
16:00:40<br />
lovely_lady:</p>
<p>italizice this!<br />
16:00:41<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>oldskool is *for bold<br />
16:00:41<br />
PaulOnChromium:</p>
<p>so it&#8217;s only half like gtalk.<br />
16:00:46<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>_for underline<br />
16:00:48<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>it&#8217;s funny to watch ya&#8217;ll trying to figure it out<br />
16:00:48<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>and / for italics<br />
16:01:09<br />
mdenny:</p>
<p>/test/<br />
16:01:18<br />
James:</p>
<p>/italics/<br />
16:01:18<br />
phoenixmike:</p>
<p>16:01:19<br />
mdenny:</p>
<p>/liar?/<br />
16:01:22<br />
lovely_lady:</p>
<p>16:01:24<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>31 users now<br />
16:01:33<br />
lovely_lady:</p>
<p>i am a lovely lady<br />
16:01:40<br />
mdenny:</p>
<p>@seanyo &#8211; all of your followers are here!<br />
16:01:44<br />
joverton:</p>
<p>lets see if we can break Sean&#8217;s computer<br />
16:01:59</p>
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16:02:03<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>??</p>
<p>(*???)  I like chat where I can type random things like this</p>
<p>?`J<br />
16:02:19<br />
PaulOnChromium:</p>
<p>i crashed a chromium tab here, good thing for sandboxing, yay!<br />
16:02:24<br />
James:</p>
<p>Jeff: with this app, probably not &#8230;<br />
16:02:26<br />
mdenny:</p>
<p>SELECT * FROM users WHERE name = &#8216;a&#8217;;DROP TABLE users; SELECT * FROM DATA WHERE name LIKE &#8216;%&#8217;;<br />
16:02:47<br />
phoenixmike:</p>
<p>?????????,???????<br />
16:02:59<br />
lovely_lady:</p>
<p>jjjj<br />
16:03:10<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>@spellbunny, yer bunny looks broken<br />
16:03:13<br />
joverton:</p>
<p>_ emphasis _<br />
16:03:13<br />
lovely_lady:</p>
<p>damn, now i want to log out and log back in<br />
16:03:37<br />
mdenny:</p>
<p>_ __________=__</p>
<p>\\@([____]_____()</p>
<p>_/\|-[____]</p>
<p>/ /(( )</p>
<p>/____|&#8217;&#8212;-&#8217;</p>
<p>\____/<br />
16:03:39<br />
joverton:</p>
<p>&#8221;&#8217;emphasis&#8221;&#8217;<br />
16:03:52<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>_____ __ __ __</p>
<p>/\ __`\ /\ \/\ \ __/\ \__</p>
<p>\ \ \/\ \ _____ __ _ __ __ \ \ \ \ \ ___ /\_\ \ ,_\ __</p>
<p>\ \ \ \ \/\ &#8216;__`\ /&#8217;__`\/\`&#8217;__\/&#8217;__`\ \ \ \ \ \ /&#8217; _ `\/\ \ \ \/ /&#8217;__`\</p>
<p>\ \ \_\ \ \ \L\ \/\ __/\ \ \//\ \L\.\_ \ \ \_\ \/\ \/\ \ \ \ \ \_/\ __/</p>
<p>\ \_____\ \ ,__/\ \____\\ \_\\ \__/.\_\ \ \_____\ \_\ \_\ \_\ \__\ \____\</p>
<p>\/_____/\ \ \/ \/____/ \/_/ \/__/\/_/ \/_____/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/__/\/____/</p>
<p>\ \_\</p>
<p>\/_/</p>
<p>____ __ __</p>
<p>/\ _`\ /\ \ /\ \</p>
<p>\ \ \L\ \ __ __ __ __\ \ \/&#8217;\ ____\ \ \</p>
<p>\ \ , / /&#8217;__`\ /\ \/\ \/\ \\ \ , &lt; /&#8217;,__\\ \ \</p>
<p>\ \ \\ \ /\ \L\.\_\ \ \_/ \_/ \\ \ \\`\ /\__, `\\ \_\</p>
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<p>16:03:53<br />
PaulOnChromium:</p>
<p>Casting (italic)for italics<br />
16:03:55<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>well<br />
16:03:57</p>
<p>that didn&#8217;t work<br />
16:04:11<br />
lovely_lady:</p>
<p>YOU didn&#8217;t work<br />
16:04:14<br />
joverton:</p>
<p>gotta roll a 9 or higher<br />
16:04:15</p>
<p>PaulOnChromium was kicked from the loungeroom.<br />
16:04:26<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>http://www.network-science.de/ascii/</p>
<p>16:04:27<br />
mdenny:</p>
<p>.-.</p>
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<p>16:04:27<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>____??  /????????</p>
<p>~&#8217; ____(,,???)&lt; HUG ME I AM A CAT</p>
<p>UU    U U   \________<br />
16:04:36<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>/me hugs spellbunny&#8217;s cat<br />
16:04:39<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>yay<br />
16:04:43<br />
lovely_lady:</p>
<p>HUG THIS<br />
16:04:53<br />
mdenny:</p>
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<p>16:04:58<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>whoa<br />
16:05:00<br />
lovely_lady:</p>
<p>i am angry lovely lady<br />
16:05:19<br />
mdenny:</p>
<p>whitespace dont stay.<br />
16:05:21<br />
lovely_lady:</p>
<p>now *that&#8217;s a lovely lady<br />
16:05:35</p>
<p>16:05:44<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>woa hehe<br />
16:05:51<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>mmmm&#8230;ascii Pr0n.<br />
16:05:53</p>
<p>PaulOnFlock left the loungeroom.<br />
16:05:58<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>Now *that&#8217;s* oldskool<br />
16:06:00<br />
lovely_lady:</p>
<p>for the record, i can&#8217;t use the scrollbar for Participants<br />
16:06:06<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>works in opera<br />
16:06:16<br />
joverton:</p>
<p>thanks man&#8230; that was cool<br />
16:06:17<br />
lovely_lady:</p>
<p>well la deee friggin da<br />
16:06:18<br />
phoenixmike:</p>
<p>I can use the scrollbar, but have to click in one specific spot near the bottom of the bar<br />
16:06:19<br />
evilseanyo:</p>
<p>doesn&#8217;t need a scroll bar for Safario/windows<br />
16:06:27</p>
<p>joverton left the loungeroom.<br />
16:06:35<br />
mdenny:</p>
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<p>&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp; . ******.. ..******.&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;</p>
<p>&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp; . . @@@ .. .. @@@ . &amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;</p>
<p>&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;. . . . .. &#8230; . . . &amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;</p>
<p>&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp; . . . . . &amp;.&amp;&amp;&amp;</p>
<p>&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;. . . .. . . .. *</p>
<p>&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp; . . . &#8230; .. .. . &amp; *</p>
<p>&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;. . . . . . .&amp;&amp;</p>
<p>&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp; . .***** ****. . . &amp;&amp;&amp;</p>
<p>&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;. . .*&#8212;$$$*. . . &amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;</p>
<p>&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;. . .******. . . &amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;</p>
<p>&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;. . . . . . &#8230;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;</p>
<p>&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&#8212;&#8211;&amp;&amp;&amp;.. . . .&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;</p>
<p>&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&#8212; &#8212;&amp;&amp;**.. ..-&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;</p>
<p>&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&#8212;- *****&#8230;..**&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;</p>
<p>&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211; *****.*.*.&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;</p>
<p>&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;**&#8230;&#8230;.&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;</p>
<p>&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;.*&#8230;&#8230;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;</p>
<p>&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8230;&#8230;.&amp;&amp;&amp;</p>
<p>16:06:43<br />
iSeanYo:</p>
<p>doesn&#8217;t work in safari on the mac<br />
16:06:47<br />
pvilchez:</p>
<p>what?<br />
16:06:52</p>
<p>it totally does.<br />
16:06:53<br />
iSeanYo:</p>
<p>which means Lovely_Lady is Lovely_Mackie<br />
16:06:56</p>
<p>really?<br />
16:07:07<br />
Paul:</p>
<p>Yeah, this is me on Safari 4<br />
16:07:08<br />
iSeanYo:</p>
<p>it just highlights the chat window<br />
16:07:08</p>
<p>for me<br />
16:07:25<br />
OverLord:</p>
<p>later dude<br />
16:07:31</p>
<p>OverLord left the loungeroom.<br />
16:07:37<br />
iSeanYo:</p>
<p>safari 3.something for me<br />
16:07:41</p>
<p>maybe that&#8217;s the problem<br />
16:07:44<br />
Paul:</p>
<p>ah, maybe<br />
16:07:48<br />
lovely_lady:</p>
<p>_ .-.</p>
<p>:_; : :</p>
<p>.-. : : .-..-..-..-. .&#8211;. .&#8211;. .&#8211;. ,-.,-. .-..-. .&#8211;.</p>
<p>: : : :_ : :; :: `; : `._-.&#8221; &#8216;_.&#8221; .; ; : ,. : : :; :&#8217; .; :</p>
<p>:_; `.__;`.__.&#8217;`.__.&#8217; `.__.&#8217;`.__.&#8217;`.__,_;:_;:_; `._. ;`.__.&#8217;</p>
<p>.-. :</p>
<p>`._.&#8217;</p>
<p>16:08:01<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>well you guys are awesome<br />
16:08:08</p>
<p>thanks so much for dropping by<br />
16:08:10<br />
lovely_lady:</p>
<p>.__ .__</p>
<p>|__| | | __ _____ __ ______ ____ _____ ____ ___.__. ____</p>
<p>| | | | | | \ \/ / / ___// __ \\__ \ / \ &lt; | |/ _ \</p>
<p>| | | |_| | /\ / \___ \\ ___/ / __ \| | \ \___ ( &lt;_&gt; )</p>
<p>|__| |____/____/ \_/ /____ &gt;\___ &gt;____ /___| / / ____|\____/</p>
<p>\/ \/ \/ \/ \/</p>
<p>16:08:18<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>and testing this out<br />
16:08:19<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>are you kicking us out now?<br />
16:08:22<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>not at all<br />
16:08:25</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be here for a bit<br />
16:08:28</p>
<p>in fact,<br />
16:08:33</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll just leave it running if you want<br />
16:08:34</p>
<p>&lt;grin&gt;<br />
16:08:39</p>
<p>PaulOnOperaMac joined the loungeroom.<br />
16:08:46<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>But I think the testing is mostly done<br />
16:08:48</p>
<p>that&#8217;s all<br />
16:08:59</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll post about testing the other apps tomorrow<br />
16:09:05<br />
phoenixmike:</p>
<p>:O<br />
16:09:11<br />
saffyre9:</p>
<p>k, I&#8217;m leaving then<br />
16:09:14<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>(I&#8217;d *never* kick you out saffyre9<br />
16:09:16</p>
<p>PaulOnOperaMac left the loungeroom.<br />
16:09:24</p>
<p>saffyre9 left the loungeroom.<br />
16:09:28<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>/me sobs<br />
16:09:32<br />
phoenixmike:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m out &#8211; this ice pack isn&#8217;t going to sit on my leg by its&#8230;.<br />
16:09:33</p>
<p>oh wait&#8230;<br />
16:09:41</p>
<p>Alright, see ya!<br />
16:09:47<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>you guys are the best<br />
16:10:04<br />
pvilchez:</p>
<p>Byes.<br />
16:10:19<br />
spellbunny:</p>
<p>bye!</p>
<p>16:10:21</p>
<p>pvilchez left the loungeroom.<br />
16:10:40<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>I think chrome had the worst time of it<br />
16:10:42</p>
<p>I blame Google<br />
16:11:03<br />
Paul:</p>
<p>Damn Google. *shakes fist*<br />
16:11:14</p>
<p>gr13 joined the loungeroom.<br />
16:11:16<br />
Paul:</p>
<p>did that not bold?<br />
16:12:57</p>
<p>James2_1 left the loungeroom.<br />
16:13:54<br />
James:</p>
<p>[b]test[/b]<br />
16:13:58</p>
<p>arg<br />
16:15:29</p>
<p>PaulOn_iPodTouch joined the loungeroom.<br />
16:17:14<br />
PaulOn_iPodTouch:</p>
<p>blahblahblah</p>
<p>16:17:42<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>really?<br />
16:17:44</p>
<p>IpodTouch?<br />
16:17:47</p>
<p>srsly?<br />
16:18:01</p>
<p>Paul: the bold only works for a contiguous string<br />
16:18:05</p>
<p>Okay<br />
16:18:18<br />
PaulOn_iPodTouch:</p>
<p>yeah, 1st gen too.<br />
16:18:21<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>Imma copy this log and post it for reference<br />
16:19:04<br />
James:</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t find a user guide for The Lounge anywhere.<br />
16:19:09</p>
<p>+test+<br />
16:19:17</p>
<p>%test%<br />
16:20:40<br />
Paul:</p>
<p>Apparently it will render in both IE5.5 and [IE5.2.3 for Mac], according to the develop tool in Safari4<br />
16:21:05<br />
seanyo:</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe how much testing we got done today<br />
16:21:09</p>
<p>very very impressive<br />
16:22:03<br />
PaulOn_iPodTouch:</p>
<p>ps, there&#8217;s no lag on my iPod, but it did drop the connection once.</p>
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<p>One of the key rules of building an audience for a blog is to have a clear topic to attract readers.  I am not interested in that rule.  I have tried that sort of blogging, but to be honest I&#8217;m not good at it.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here I am, starting another blog.  What&#8217;s different about this one?  Well, they say to build readership to focus on a single, strong, compelling topic. That ain&#8217;t me.  I have tried, but really I have a lot of interests and I want to write about them all.  So instead of keeping lots of little focused [...]]]></description>
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<p>That ain&#8217;t me.  I have tried, but really I have a lot of interests and I want to write about them all.  So instead of keeping lots of little focused niche blogs, I&#8217;ve decide to have one not-so-focussed niche blog &lt;grin&gt;.</p>
<p>Hope there&#8217;s something here you are interested in&#8230;chances are you&#8217;ll find something you like.</p>
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